VX, you should talk. You're one of the most depressed people on the board, constantly telling us we're going to hell in a handbasket because of illegal aliens, the Chinese, liberals, Muslims, or whatever. The only difference I see between libs and cons concerning Duke's criteria is in what they want to spend the money on and what they get depressed about. Check out Bush's budgets and the Republican Congress's appropriations for lessons in spending other people's money, and rightist rhetoric for fear-mongering.